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Post by Topcontender on Jun 19, 2003 19:18:10 GMT -5
good points, i remember that part and thought it was strange too.
we know - the wands will not fight each other - harry's protection was given to him by his mom - with harry's blood LV was able to touch harry - the spell brought LV a new body, before he was not really alive or dead. - harry has LV's powers -something has protected harry at the dursleys and we know that the CAt woman is a witch ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Some ideas -I think harry's aunt missed the gift of magic. -OOTP is something about those who went after LV 15 years ago - Wormtail will turn, Dumbledore hinted how saving his life put him in debt to harry - percy is hungry for power
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 20, 2003 3:22:32 GMT -5
Yes! I have thought for a while now that Percy could spell big trouble, all he is concerned about is the ministry - a budding Cornelius!
I had forgotten about the point about Wormtail, but you are right! Albus told Harry that didn't he? because Harry was feeling bad about letting Wormtail live.
Btw, JK Rowling was asked if maybe snape had been in love with Harry's mother,which may explain why he loathes the potter family - She just looked straight ahead lol, and didn't confirm or deny this, which I thought was interesting!
Regarding the death - It may not be Ron, or Hermoine, or even Hagrid. It could be Mr or Mrs Weasley, Lupin, Sirius Black, all ppl that Harry is close to. Or maybe even one of the Ron's siblings. Possibly even Percy, for the reasons you thought of.
We know that Hagrid has gone off to talk to the giants for Albus, and it looks like Snape is going back to voldemort, as a double agent?
I think that Ron and Hermoine are kind of an item, Ron was very happy to see the back of Krum, even though he admired him on the Quidditch field!
Harry is protected at Privet Drive by an old magic, so not even Voldemort can touch him when he is there? I'm trying to find that bit now, but its not easy, lol
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 20, 2003 7:33:33 GMT -5
yeah JK basically confirmed the Ron and Hermoine love deal.
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Post by pabs on Jun 20, 2003 10:12:07 GMT -5
My mom called out the Hermione-Ron affair after the second book and I think she was right I have a very soft spot for the Weasleys. And though Percy is becoming too obsessed with power, we shouldn't forget that he's still a Weasley. I can see him maybe straying off a bit maybe....but in the end he will be back with the good guys. What I really am waiting for is for Mr. Weasley to get really pissed off. I think his magic skills have been underrated but he will be a factor when the time comes. Also, does anyone think that Draco Malfoy will probably be a part of LV's plan against Harry? I mean his dad is a big LV fan-boy, and Draco can get very close to Harry.
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 20, 2003 10:42:32 GMT -5
some thoughts by others.
I think we need to remember that one, Wormtail owes a life debt to Harry, and two, as Pettigrew’s blood now flows through Voldemort (the blood of the man who is in Harry’s debt), what will that mean for Voldemort?
Ruby you mentioned the triumph in Albus's eyes, this might be it.
Why Voldemort killed Lily and James Potter. first, we know that Lily didn’t have to die. Why not? I have an idea, either or both of which may be true. Lily may have had a romantic fling with Tom Riddle before he became Voldemort (I know the age thing seems crazy, but it could have happened
why did James HAVE to die? I think he was the second last heir of Godric Gryffindor, making Harry the last. If so, and you take my idea from above, then I am saying that Harry is the heir of both Slytherin and Gryffindor. Yes, that is what I’m saying.
The audio excerpt has caused a lot of waves for all of us, of course, and here’s my guess. Dementors showed up at Privet Drive, Harry cast a Patronus, got a letter from the Ministry saying he had an expulsion trial for breaking the Decree for the Restriction of Underage Sorcery. As for where they are…hmm…maybe it’s an old Dark Wizard’s house that the Weasleys are using as headquarters for Arthur and those sympathetic to Dumbledore and against Voldemort. Level of
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 20, 2003 15:06:54 GMT -5
OK if you have reserved your book, and are going to a midnight opening at a store like Borders, or Barnes and Noble you must get a ticket and get in the lottery to get your book. They are passing the tickets out to people so it is you best interest to stop by as you come home from work and get one so you can beat that long line.
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 21, 2003 19:33:22 GMT -5
Well, its 1.27am sunday here, and i have just finished the book.
I now think that some day, Harry is going to get together with Ginny. Not that either Harry or Ginny are aware of it, but I think it will happen.
Apart from that, don't want to say too much yet, in case you guys haven't finished.
I just hope we don't have to wait another 3 years for the next book, I couldn't take it!
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Post by pabs on Jun 21, 2003 19:45:58 GMT -5
Ruby,
My mom also thinks Harry and Ginny are going to be together. I can't see it happening but we'll see. I got my copy this morning but I've been tied up with work all day so I haven't even started it.
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 24, 2003 14:23:45 GMT -5
Pabs and TC Have you read that bleeding book yet?? please come on now, I'm dying to talk about it!!!
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Post by pabs on Jun 25, 2003 11:42:08 GMT -5
OH I'M SO PISSED OFF!!!!!
This morning I turned the radio and before I knew it, the first thing they said was: "XXXXXX is the one that gets killed in the new Harry Potter book"
Well, thanks a lot A-holes!! I've gotten through half the book because I really haven't had much time to read but this is fucking unbelievable. Then about 15 people called them telling them how pissed off they were for giving it away.
Oh man...I'm pissed off to the highest level of pissitivity...F them!!! I'm never listening to that radio station EVER again.
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 25, 2003 12:24:29 GMT -5
Yeah, that was a rotten trick to pull, but thats people for ya!!! My son has been hearing the name at school, as some bloody kids just can't wait to ruin it for everyone else. I have refused to confirm or deny it, as he is still reading the book. Have to say though, so far as TV goes, everything was good here in the UK - nobody revealed the identity on TV at all. Don't know about the papers, I didn't read them on purpose just in case, but I feel sure that some of them would have printed it. Anyway Pabs, do not worry! There is a lot more to come from this book than just that one incident, trust me! And will ya hurry up already?? Jeez, some people!
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 25, 2003 14:25:31 GMT -5
ahhhh i am done with the book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That one took a very long time.
OK Ruby fire away, Pabs if you are not done yet dont read any further.
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Post by pabs on Jun 27, 2003 21:02:18 GMT -5
ok, done!!!
Let the debate begin...
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Post by Cine_Man on Jun 28, 2003 0:29:14 GMT -5
My daughter ploughed thru it in under 24 hours statute time. It arrived 5pm two days ago, and she was done after school yesterday... and won't say a word about it, bless her soul. She does ask me where I am in it, but with everything else going on, I'm making slow progress. I just made it onto the "horseless" carriages back to Hogwarts. After the kangaroo court proceeding at the Ministry of Magic, I was hoping it to be Fudge who gets it.
At the end of Book Eight, of course it has to be a showdown between Harry and whoever the agent of LV will be... if indeed LV survives that long. I'm thinking it will be Draco Malfoy. At the same time, I'm thinking that Harry will have a fling with the DarkSide, Anakin-style. I keep thinking about the movie poster of the second book, with Harry's sword so carefully positioned against Hermione's throat. That can't be a mistake.
Well, to bed, Q2 in 6.5 hours.
Cine_...
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 28, 2003 3:27:19 GMT -5
OK - Do we now have to wait until Cine-man finishes? Cos I have to tell ya, I am dying to start talking about this book!!! I have been very good, and said not a single word.....yet!
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