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Post by Topcontender on Jun 3, 2003 8:52:57 GMT -5
Global tax on guns?
Some world leaders at the G8 summit meeting are floating the idea of a global tax on arms sales, including – at French President Jacques Chirac's suggestion – a tax on gun purchases by individuals.
In a speech at the annual meeting of the "Group of Eight," or G8, Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva pushed the arms-sales tax as a scheme whereby the world's wealthiest nations could fund efforts to eliminate world hunger, reports Bloomberg News.
Ummm There will be a cold day in hell before i ever give in to any global tax. Currently they want taxes on Guns, airplane tickets, and a few other things. NO way!!!! I know nobody stateside is willing to do this either. Even if you like the UN the idea of giving them taxing power is just BS!!!!
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Post by alexmd on Jun 3, 2003 10:14:34 GMT -5
i'm with you there man! i already get the crap taxed out of me, and i also plan to get a gun so i don't wanna be taxed on that more than i would be on a loaf of bred.
pffff taxes! Plus that i have no desire of helping the poorer nations. There's plenty of assholes on welfare here working under the table that make more money than i do.
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Post by Danny Boy on Jun 3, 2003 10:44:26 GMT -5
Yes, and I’ve had a vasectomy and only fire blanks, so I feel I should be exempt from any tax.
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Post by daSilva on Jun 3, 2003 10:48:57 GMT -5
Yes, and I’ve had a vasectomy and only fire blanks, so I feel I should be exempt from any tax. They're talking about guns not peeshooters. Hehehe!
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Post by BangBang on Jun 3, 2003 10:59:23 GMT -5
Yup... NATO, NAFTA, ANZAC, WHO, EU, and the UN should all tax people living in the US for buying guns! Remember Guns don't kill people, but the bullets inside them do!
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 3, 2003 11:12:57 GMT -5
Gun control in Indiana is hitting your target!!!! No way will they ever get the US to agree to something like this. You know my opinion of the UN, and the last thing I want to see is that organization having governmental powers to tax anyone.
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Post by Srrh on Jun 3, 2003 12:55:19 GMT -5
I recommand "Bowling for Columbine"...
More American got killed by their own firearms then during the entire Vietnam war. Doesn't make you think? Probably not!!
Alexmd, if you want to contribute to that massacre, be my guest, but the first of you gun'whoz who even starts whinning that their kids or friends got "accidently" shot will be flammed...big time.
If you are willing to cap someone's ass, you DESERVE to get yours shot at. Karma, poetic justice...whatever...
You are only allowed to receive a Darwin award...But if that is really your wish, I urge you to remove your violent genes from the global gene pool asap.
Sorry, I promised myself I wouldn't answer that...couldn' t help it.
s.
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 3, 2003 13:26:49 GMT -5
I watched 'Bowling for Colombine' very recently........
Have to say, I was very shocked by the attitude of Charlton Heston, and his complete lack of sensitivity to the bereaved and the injured.
All Americans need to look very closely at the rest of the world - we survive without guns, they can too.
Or even just to neighbouring Canada, where they do have a lot of guns, but nothing like the death rate resulting from them that America has.
I let my son play with toy guns, largely because when I didn't, he would just improvise with a stick! However, I also make him watch when war is on the news - He knows the results of a real gun, he knows they kill people. But, if I were ever to have a gun in my house, I couldn't be absolutely sure that he would not be tempted to hold it, and that is why I will never, ever own one, even if they should become legal in the UK - though thankfully, I think we have more sense than to ever allow that to happen.
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 3, 2003 14:30:44 GMT -5
Bowling for Columbine a movie that really distorts the truth behind what really happend. Yes it won the Oscar, but people have been trying to get that revoked because the movie does not document what really happend. That Moore guy twists everything to get his view of the world portrayed in that movie.
Srrh- you make a good point about if i am willing to cap someone i deserve to get shot. You will find that alot of that death by thier own gun stuff is largely due to suicides. However, rednecks win the darwin everyday by shooting themselves.
I myself have guns, and i do what everyone should do and that is NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT! People go to bars drunk with guns, flash them around and something happens. People need to be careful around guns.
I use to go to a pool hall that was in the hood and was full of hardcore gangsters that scare the livin !@#$ out of anyone. At 18 I knew going in there was not a bad thing becuase even though the crowd had murderers, pimps, and rapist, I knew that since everyone had a gun nobody was gonna try anything stupid. It was a way to keep people in check. No do i think everyone shoud ahve a gun "no," but it did balance the place.
Another fine quote from the USA is "if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns." I sleep better at night know in have protection from an outlaw.
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Post by BangBang on Jun 3, 2003 14:45:07 GMT -5
I still say... Fine let people have guns... But make ammunition illegal!!!!
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Post by Srrh on Jun 3, 2003 14:53:51 GMT -5
Bowling for Columbine a movie that really distorts the truth behind what really happend. 1)Have you seen it? 2)It is not really about Columbine, but more about america's love affair with gun...And it is a very good flick. Ther sequence were you see the vid. camera of shootings is bone chilling...and there is no editing...raw... Great movie... PS If you don't want to give MM your money, at least rip it off kazaa...it is really worth watching... PS Ruby: Moses is a jackass. I can't wait for someone to rip the gun from "his cold dead hands" and shove it "in his warm...." well, you know what I mean... That moron should be tried for crimes against humanity...with that pope guy...Their business is insecurity, doubt, fears... they make me S.
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Post by Henrik on Jun 3, 2003 15:21:55 GMT -5
If the world can tax the hell out of cigarettes as they are doing now, then they sure as hell should tax guns at least to the same extent. Guns are certainly not way up there on the need to have list, and so I think it is a great idea to tax them. Shit, if we can't outlaw war, we can at least make money from gun sales. Even beer is taxed heavily!
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Post by Topcontender on Jun 3, 2003 17:29:43 GMT -5
srrh- i never saw it, i have just read a few things like the oscar situation.
Hen- they got a global tax on cigs?
To me the question is not what to tax , it is letting an organization that i didn't vote for tell me what i am gonna do with my money.
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Post by who won on Jun 3, 2003 18:42:14 GMT -5
Top C they already do. We all fund the UN.
Perhaps then this might be the first step toward an elected UN. In some sense it is elected anyway.
Like you elect your own congressman to sit in the house of congress, the individual countries then elect their reps rather ambassadors to sit in the UN.
To that extent they are elected. The US and 4 other nations having more say than any other.
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Post by Henrik on Jun 4, 2003 1:24:03 GMT -5
TC,
No, there is no global tax on cigarettes, or anything else for that matter, and if it is the "global tax" that poses a problem for you then can understand your point.
Nevertheless, I still think it is a good idea to tax guns, and yes all countries should do just that. They could then use a portion of the tax collected to resolve some of the current pension issues, and another to try and erradicate world hunger.
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