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Post by BrainFade on May 31, 2003 6:51:16 GMT -5
Pabs, don't get me wrong - I'm big on personal achievements too. However, as an employer looking purely at personal achievements (let's say the names of the candidates aren't even on their applications) who do you think I'm gonna hire when one candidate has had private school education and every other opportunity to succeed available to him/her and the other has had some shitty education and never been given the chance to join this or that committee, club, whatever... The fact remains that for many minorities (I use that term loosely - here in SA black people are actually the majority) it has not been possible to personally achieve what others have, purely because of the lack of resources and opportunities available to them.
Another thing, the case for AA is different here than in, for example, the US. We've only had democracy for 9 years, so things are still very much affected by the legacy of apartheid.
Also, AA alone is not the answer. TC is right in that it can foster a culture of "hand outs" where people expect things just to be handed to them on a platter. People need to accept that hard work is still necessary, as much for a sense of personal achievement as for the good of the country/company etc. that uses AA policies.
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Post by BrainFade on May 31, 2003 6:56:26 GMT -5
One more thing - The original poll (Are blacks more poltically aware?) is lacking methinks. There should be a "I can't really say" option. I mean did those of you who voted "no" mean that blacks are less politically aware, or that they just aren't necessarily more politically aware?
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Post by Public Education Rules on May 31, 2003 10:54:29 GMT -5
As an employer you should look at the merits of ech individual. I'd hire anyone with a 4.0 GPA out of Texas A&M University than someone with a 2.0 GPA out of Princeton...and Rx can vouche to the fact that this is a BIG statement coming from me.
I agree that in general, minorities have had less opportunities to succeed. However, what upsets me is that instead of making good use of the opportunies they are given, a lot of times they fall back in a self-pity attitude that promotes mediocrity. Minorities should be encouraged to seize opportunities. Instead, they get jobs, scholarships, etc that they do not deserve on the grounds of individual merits.
I actually agree with scholarship programs for those who are less fortunate and come from communities where they really have had little to no access to a decen education system. However, that's not always the case. You see, in this day and age, a lot of minorities (perhaps not the bulk) have had access to education but they are still making full use of AA. Incidentally they are the ones giving AA a bad name.
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