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Post by beefburger on May 9, 2002 17:53:35 GMT -5
but actually this is about solutions
okay, here's a solution, enforce a peace. Build a huge Berlin wall around Israel. Thats all, they will have to give the Pal enough contiguous land for a state and then done. They dont get Jerusalem, they can have the gaza strip they can take the west bank and the rest is walled off with 500 foot brick wall re-enforced with titanium and a with an electric surface. Any attack upon it would be met with nuclear holocaust.
MAD as the strategy used to be known, Mutually Assured destruction, however I dont think MAD would work for certain fundamentalists who themseves are mad, their own destruction is of little consequence.
Just the wall will have to do, the border police will be paid for by the UN and will guard both sides for the next 50 years.
In the mean time, all of the children are taken away from the parents, no one is allowed to have any children without sending them for schooling in a vacuum on mars. They will not know who they are nor their names all they will be taught is the preciousness of human life and how to share. When the first batch are 50, they will return (along with all the most recent children and babies who had recently arrived on the planet) from whence they came and then the wall will be brougt down.
All the new men women and children will know is love and peace and perhaps MS
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Post by da_silva on May 9, 2002 17:58:40 GMT -5
Beef,
Why can't they have half of Jerusalem? Berlin was severed in half, the same could be done with Jerusalem.
Srrh, I like your idea of the massive strike, the Jews would be in trouble economically without the Palestinian workers. The workers could easily plunge Israel into an economic depression from which it would be difficult to recover. Oh wait here comes the US aid to the rescue.
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Post by beefburger on May 9, 2002 18:47:09 GMT -5
Actually
Israel would hold the upper hand in any battle of the boycotts
This is an article from Science monitor when talking of such a boycott of both labour and purchasing of Israeli goods.
"The effect on the Israeli economy on the whole, I'm sorry to say, is negligible," says Ephraim Kleiman, a Hebrew University expert on the economic relationship between Israel and the Palestinian territories. A few specific food or soft-drink companies might suffer, for example, but the Israeli economy as a whole - 25 times larger than the Palestinians' - will not. He says that Palestinian purchases make up only about 10 percent of Israeli exports, and even that figure is swollen by exports that are actually just Israeli-processed products like coffee, which actually comes from somewhere else.
the dice are loaded in Israel's favor, If it's economic warfare, the losers will be Palestinians because they're the smaller and poorer partner who gains most from economic relations."
But Israeli building contractors warn that the country could go into a depression if the government doesn't find a replacement for the Palestinians who worked in Israel before the bombing, many of them in construction. And Israeli officials say that while the closure has a much harsher effect on Palestinians, it does have an effect on Israeli construction and agriculture.
"Israel lost 1.5 billion in shekels [about $425 million] from this closure," says Bar-Illan. "We're not doing it for fun."
At the same time, the Israeli economy is far less dependent on Palestinian labor than it was a few years ago"
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Post by Srrh on May 10, 2002 9:09:21 GMT -5
Beef,
To quote you "however I disagree with you about the response Israel would supposedly have"oh, then you are giving much more credit to Israel then you are giving to other civilisations. What happened when King Jr. did it? The US used the dogs, the army and the water canons! What happened when Ghandi did it? The brits used the dogs, the army and big sticks. What happened wen Mandela did it? SA used the dogs...
What do you think would happpen if Palestinian shut isreli border's? That Sharon would say "how nice, it's peacful". Hell no. He'd send the dogs. They all send the dogs. Israel is no more righteous the the Us or England.
Srrh
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