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Post by smokingun on Apr 9, 2003 0:22:01 GMT -5
orig post not deleted becoz TC already responded to the thread.
smokingun
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Post by Topcontender on Apr 9, 2003 0:37:48 GMT -5
haha the original has not been deleted just moved for a bit to cool you guys off. I dunno what happened last wekk but i guess it got hot.
This time
1. BE NICE
2. BE CALM
3. DONT THROW SO MUCH PASSION INTO IT
Remember this is a pol thread on kashmir. If you dont like anoter persons view that is Ok, but dont go crazy. If yiu can't discuss the topic without going nuts then stay out of it.
that said, as a kind member once said; "handbags ladies, handbags"
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Post by Wycco on Apr 9, 2003 8:22:03 GMT -5
Well... here is a question-
I'll let you guys decide- would you like me to move it back- or would you prefer for me to leave it where it is and you can start afresh?
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Post by Srrh on Apr 9, 2003 8:25:05 GMT -5
Corruption and embezzlement continue to thrive in occupied Kashmir due to inability of the puppet regime to check the growing menace.
According to reports, over 300 cases of corruption have piled up but no big fish has been caught so far.
Corrupt elements in the puppet Jammu and Kashmir Government continue having a good time as the coalition government headed by Mufti Mohammad Sayeed has so far failed to fulfil its commitment of tightening grip on the menace. The Congress and the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), alliance partners in the government, had in separate poll manifestoes promised to end corruption. However, little has changed so far.
Many organisations, including the Power Development Department, the Excise and Taxation and police, have virtually become dens of corruption. Corruption has got "institutionalised" and no so-called government has taken steps to end the same.
I remain,
Srrh
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Post by Srrh on Apr 9, 2003 8:28:22 GMT -5
As for the original subject, the recent outrage and killings inside Indian Occupied Jammu & Kashmir including serious violations all along the LoC has awakened the world once again for upped activities to understand the turbulence in this region. Reassurance outside India is growing which is to the advantage of Jammu & Kashmir where the line of control (LoC) is turned into the Line of conflict.
British Premier Tony Blair in London on Oct.19.2001 said,” The instability as regard of the dispute is there and that is one of the reasons we are trying to work as hard as we can both with India and Pakistan to reduce tension there. Now again these things are very difficult but I think you can rest assure that we are very well aware of the dangers because of that particular source of tension and the need for us to focus on it”
Earlier President Bush US Secretary of State and also the Assistant Secretary of State during his visit to Islamabad and New Delhi repeated their call for restraint along the LoC. India perhaps not caring that the future events could be the most testing time has engaged itself in the torrent of accusations which elsewhere vanished into the solidarity and support for Jammu & Kashmiri If everyday is the day of violation by India along the LoC each day is reflective of support and concern for Jammu & Kashmir. Although there is no relief but whatever is occurring is annoying India to the displeasure of its total leadership.
India anxiously endeavored its best to manipulate its position on Jammu & Kashmir. Even if compared with the actual assessment by India’s leadership, India appears the big looser as the world concern on Jammu & Kashmir is growing and the pressure is mounting on India.
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Post by Srrh on Apr 9, 2003 8:34:13 GMT -5
and one for the road...
Did you guys know that US Congressman Edolphus Towns (D-NY) has sponsored and introduced Resolution No. 656 in the U.S. House of Representatives (106 Congress - 2nd Session), which strongly demands that the corrupt and repressive Government of India should take immediate steps to end the massive and systematic human rights abuses by Indian
Government forces in India, Hindu-occupied Kashmir, Hindu-held
Khalistan (East Punjab) and Hindu-controlled Nagaland of
Christians.
"Although the Constitution of India provides for freedom of
religion, violence and intolerance are perpetrated against many
religious groups in India, including Muslims, Sikhs, Christians
and Hindus," the House Resolution 656 points out.
The House Resolution states that the Government of India is a
Political Mafia because its "human rights abuses involve
political killings by government forces, including the deaths of
persons being held in custody, and the manipulation of physical
evidence to provide false justifications for the use of lethal
force."
The Towns Resolution raises the following 5 demands of the U.S. House of Representatives:
(1) The Government of India should take immediate steps to end the human rights abuses perpetrated by government forces in India.
(2) The Government of India should enforce the constitutional
right to freedom of religion by protecting the people of India
from religiously motivated violence and intolerance.
(3) The Government of India should develop policies to end the
discrimination and violence faced by women in Indian society.
(4) The Government of India should develop policies to end the
use of child labor in India.
(5) The United States should consider the extent to which the
Government of India has acted in conformity with the principles
expressed in [above] paragraphs (1) through (4) as a factor in
future decisions regarding the allocation of [American] foreign
assistance.
The Towns Resolution, which was referred to the House Committee on International Relations, is based on the following 11 points:
(1) The Government of India should take immediate steps to end the human rights abuses by government forces in India, and for other purposes.
(2) Significant human rights abuses exist in India despite
extensive constitutional and statutory safeguards.
(3) These human rights abuses involve political killings by
government forces, including the deaths of persons being held in
custody, and the manipulation of physical evidence to provide
false justifications for the use of lethal force.
(4) Human rights abuses are particularly evident in the
[occupied] state of Jammu and Kashmir and several northeastern states in India.
(5) The human rights abuses include the disappearance, torture
and killing of people by [Indian] government forces.
(6) Although the Constitution of India provides for freedom of
religion, violence and intolerance are perpetrated against many
religious groups in India, including Muslims, Sikhs, Christians
and Hindus.
(7) Such violence and intolerance occur in many parts of India,
particularly at the state and local levels.
(8) The failure of the Government of India to protect these
religious groups has abridged their right to religious freedom.
(9) During the last 18 months Christians, in particular, have
been attacked or killed [in India by Hindu terrorists] and have
had their houses of worship destroyed.
(10) Extensive legal and societal discrimination as well as
violence, including female bondage and forced prostitution,
occur against women in India.
(11) The use of child labor in India remains a serious human
rights problem.
Nice....
My Personal thanks to my friend Badresh who is providing me with this...
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Post by Srrh on Apr 9, 2003 8:38:23 GMT -5
I'll let you guys decide- would you like me to move it back- or would you prefer for me to leave it where it is and you can start afresh? Anyone with an opinion ? Anyone even cares? Ok, the last one out of here, turn the lights off. I remain, Srrh |
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Post by Danny Boy on Apr 9, 2003 9:20:58 GMT -5
All the countries in that region, including the middle east, take human rights abuse as an everyday part of life.
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Post by PeaceCorp on Apr 10, 2003 17:34:31 GMT -5
All the countries in that region, including the middle east, take human rights abuse as an everyday part of life. Give this guy a beer : Although depressing, he's also right !!   I say give the place its independance (from both Pakistan and India) , and send in the litlle fellows form the UN with blue helmets !!! With big guns... I remain, PeaceCorp. |
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Post by smokingun on Apr 21, 2003 7:24:16 GMT -5
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