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Post by smokingun on Jun 5, 2003 8:13:56 GMT -5
can you grow passion fruit?? i love the taste of passion fruit, it's not common in these parts though. back to the topic about obesity, just remind you'll again about how important it is to pick a game that you love. this way you don't even need to be motivated to exercise. and drink lots of water. i lost 20+ kgs over a period of one year and i feel great,. still lots more weight has to be lost, but i'm getting there smokingun
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Post by Wycco on Jun 5, 2003 8:31:08 GMT -5
can you grow passion fruit?? i love the taste of passion fruit, it's not common in these parts though. I'm fairly sure Passion Fruit would grow here- wild passion fruit (not edible) is a weed in these parts.
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Post by Senninha on Jun 5, 2003 9:12:30 GMT -5
Squash: Drunk in huge quantities by students (or so I notice). Also available on campus, blackcurrant in flavour, also contains huge amounts of alcohol. That stuff that they give the drivers in the F1 press conferences. Ever heard of Robinson's/Ribena? That's it.
Overweight and education:
I come from a working class area where people leave school at 16, are married (or separated or living with someone, not necessarily the parent of the kids) with kids (plural) by 21, and are either working in a supermarket or on the dole.
I point this out for a reason. Not everyone by any means is overweight, but the culture is a stark contrast to what I find at uni. And I do feel a hell of a lot fatter at uni!!!
One reason for people being more overweight at home - the TYPE of food. It's not all fast food restaurants and the like, I know in the UK, working class food is a lot more fattening (and stodgy) than the 'posher' stuff. Being overweight is the least of your problems I guess, you have more important things to worry about - money issues and the like. The really rough families, if I think, are probably all really skinny, but, for the kids that grow up in the families in the area that are less rough (and less likely to turn to drug abuse and the like when they're older) a lot of them tend to be fatter. Once you're like that when you're a kid - you go into adulthood and don't expect much different.
To me, it's as much a cultural thing as anything, and more the types of food you eat. Example - since my sis started working in London, not only has she developed a much more correct way of speaking (much to my disgust! "posh London accent"), but she wears different clothes and has lost weight. I don't think she's done this conciously as much to fit in with the environment she has found herself in. Cultural see?
I'm not sure it's a question of being more unhappy or whatever - maybe it could be. I know I was a lot more insecure as a kid than I am now, and I ate more snacks as comfort food then. I guess my parents never stopped me because it gave me comfort - and when you see some of the kids I grew up with, it's not a wonder.
Anyway, I'm overweight, but at the same time well built (which I guess isn't that feminine but I take after my dad - genetics!), and I'm not that fat in that respect. More chubby!! lol!! However, I think this is something more left from my youth, or it's just genetic, simply because I neither put on or lose weight anymore - I eat what I want when I'm hungry.
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Post by Senninha on Jun 5, 2003 9:18:15 GMT -5
I was also going to make some comment about how in days past it was seen as a sign of wealth to be slightly plump I guess - y'know, the paintings of the nude women (no sarcastic comments please ) where they'd be shown as having slightly rounded stomachs. I think my point was going to be is this where the culture for 'poorer' people to eat more fattenign stuff comes from - or is it a case of eat as much as you can while you can? Who knows? Though I don't think the US culture is the same in that respect
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Post by Henrik on Jun 5, 2003 9:31:10 GMT -5
Some very good poitns there Senninha (as always!), and no doubt correct in your area. I think it is a given that culture has an influence on the body, as it obviously influences the way people eat, and if they tend to do much physical effort or not. Nevertheless, I always find it almost shocking when I travel to the US to see so many seriously obese people. In all honesty, the really obese people you see regularly over there, are also more obese than the "worts" you see here in Europe. It reminds me of this picture I saw not so long ago, showing a gas mask exercise in some government agency in the US. There was a room of perhaps 100 people, end every single person was what would be considered seriously overweight in Europe. Culture is one thing, but I really think the US has another and more serious problem there that they really need to deal with. In the meantime, I'll help myself to a nice cold , seeing that last year I managed to lose 10kg, and have stayed that way since, weighing in (this morning) at 72.5kg for 187cm.
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Post by Henrik on Jun 5, 2003 9:33:28 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot to mention what I drink on a very regular basis here.
We have a selection of sparkling or still mineral water with just a dash of taste added in. My favourite is lemon, as I find it very refreshing, and more of a pleasure to drink than plain water. Not a calory in that!
The same company, Volvic, also makes a delicious ice tea that has hardly any sugar in it, and is so much better than all the over-sweetened ice teas you find on the market.
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Post by pabs on Jun 5, 2003 9:44:59 GMT -5
I thought water was for bathing and beer was for drinking...
But seriously though, the best idea I've heard regarding eating habits: Try drinking 12 oz. of water about half an hour before lunch. That will trick your stomach into thinking it's full so you won't eat as much, and the body also gets rid of some fat through urine (at least this is what I was told by one trainer at my gym).
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Post by Henrik on Jun 5, 2003 9:49:46 GMT -5
I thought water was for bathing and beer was for drinking... But seriously though, the best idea I've heard regarding eating habits: Try drinking 12 oz. of water about half an hour before lunch. That will trick your stomach into thinking it's full so you won't eat as much, and the body also gets rid of some fat through urine (at least this is what I was told by one trainer at my gym). But if the body gets rid of some fat through urine, drinking beer must be a great diet!
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Post by pabs on Jun 5, 2003 9:53:58 GMT -5
That's the diet I'm on right now!!
Problem with beer is too many calories...
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Post by Ruby2 on Jun 5, 2003 9:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by pabs on Jun 5, 2003 10:00:12 GMT -5
Can we please listen to Srrh's advise and not bad-mouth beer? I need a ..insensitive bastards
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Post by Srrh on Jun 5, 2003 12:31:16 GMT -5
weighing in (this morning) at 72.5kg for 187cm. Why do you even bother reading the thread ? F*** people... H & G travel the racing world, own a kart track with THEIR OWN bar, and now H is telling us (in a thread about fat mind you) that he weights 158 pounds for his six fet 2 inches... I am a looser...I'll go myself to death.... s.
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Post by Cine_Man on Jun 5, 2003 21:12:06 GMT -5
Hey, Henrik... we are almost identical in height/build, so if we ever meet on the track, it won't be a matter of ballast!
I have a serious weakness for a sweet... and then go sometimes for days without eating virtually anything. Not a great lifestyle, but I work fireman's hours... film happens when it happens, and right now I've got two months of 10pm to 6am ( a 13part series and a feature).
I am at an almost complete loss as to how to swing a nutrition plan around that kind of lifestyle. Its tough on my family, since they are on what would be a "normal" schedule / school, day job... and I'm the chef de cuisine. Mostly I just prepare stuff for them and pass on actually eating any of it.
Heres a really laborious joke about fats.... or lipids, if you like.
When the fat lady sings at the end of "Madame Butterfly", does it become a "lipid-opera"?
To get this (admittedly forced) joke, you would have to know that butterflies are "lepidoptera". Oh, well..... Hat, coat, car keys, gloves, shoes, sunglasses, out of here.
Cine_...
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Post by RacerX on Jun 10, 2003 23:32:39 GMT -5
More labels...this time it's from the very media I've already shown discust at...
OK, last night, while driving home, I was listening to a San Antonio talk show. the guy comes out and claims the media are a bunch of racists! (It's a co-hosted show of two white guys that just harp on whatever issue they think is hot)
I listened, and laughed at first, then heard the guy plead his case & thought: maybe he's on to something.
His beef was with all the media attention & where it goes on BIG crime cases.
He was harping that recently a young Hispanic girl in San Antonio was kidnapped and nobody seem to give a damned...especially our media! BUT....when a cute blonde haired blue eyed girl gets kidnapped, it's not only all over the local media, but is immediately picked up by the national media.
Then he went on to blast them for covering other crimes. More recently the Lacci Peterson case. He asked people to call in and name one crime / trial / hearing that received National Media coverage where the poeple involved were black, of hispanic, or asian, etc, etc, etc. Only one exception, it couldn't be CELEBRITIES! (In other words, O.J. doesn't count, because he was a huge celebrity & it was a blonde haired blue eyed Nicole that he supposedly killed.)
I started thinking & couldn't come up with ANY myself.
Sure, I thought of the Football player for the Carolina panthers, who'd hired someone to off his pregnant girlfriend. It received alot of national attention, but opps...he was a celebrity too.
He basically harpped all over the media people & the decision makers behind what stories get National attention, and called them all racists! I found it funny, that the so called "liberal media" were being painted as serious racists.
I pondered & pondered and could only come up with the following:
"Another item to add to the things that make you go H'mm."
Wuff, RacerX
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