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Post by Srrh on Oct 4, 2002 10:13:14 GMT -5
Litlle Black kid with the humongous eyes....I remember him... It was like getting punched in the face....A good healthy punch though... He is dead now I beleive. RIP Brazil is going generic and Fuck the WTO!!! With Lula in power next month, I hope they start exporting medicine to SA. Srrh
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Post by raptor22 on Oct 7, 2002 11:08:27 GMT -5
Yikes hold on Danny I'm no supporter of Mugabe. Just trying to put his evil ino context with something that is greater. The man is as greedy as they come. efinately TEXT a supporter of that chararcter. What I do support is land reform in Zim, but not the way that twat is carrying it out. AS for Thabo doinghis bit, The message is being spread. The dangers of AIDS is taught to kids at schools around the country, but then the religious fanatics jump out and say that it has no place in primary schools. In SSA primary school lasts until you're around 12yrs old so a lot of kids of starting to mature sexually already. Why is it that we humans have no grasp of reality and hide behind the cruch of religion when we refuse to cinfront issues. Anyway there are massive campaigns around the country that educate about the dangers of unprotected sex et al. The day clinis will give youa box of the stuff if only people will ask for it..... TEXT. Oh yeah the litttle boys name was Nkosi Johstone and yeah he died earlier this year. but his is only one sad story. There are tens of thousands more in SA and millions in Africa alone. Still the 1st world watches and preaches but does little. If it makes no business sense then you die. Very sad indeed.
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Post by Danny Boy on Oct 7, 2002 11:19:59 GMT -5
When I said "I never thought you were a supporter of Magabe" I meant just that, it was not meant to read as if I thought you were a supporter of his. I would like to see land reforms as well. Do you have any idea what the policy is on the education of prospective farm managers? How many black farmers are capable of taking over the running of the bigger farms at this moment? And who will teach those who want to learn?
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Post by raptor22 on Oct 8, 2002 9:00:47 GMT -5
Thanks for that clarification danny. I'm still senitive from the damaged suffered due to continuous bashing on F1 -live ;D
Those questions can be answered with an easy 'I don't know'. magabe does'nt want to retain the commercial farmers as managers either. He wants them out! this is stupid, short sighted and racist. Forcing the farmers to grow food producing crops would have been a better option but he is'nt interested. And there are many ways he could have achieved this via tax incentives, or just passing a law limiting tobacco production. This would be in line with global trends to reduce the effects of smoking etc..
All we're waiting for now is for The Lord all Mighty to step in and take uncle Bobby to that place in the sky. However I fear he is in league with much darker powers because he is not doing this for his people but for himself. The people come second or maybe 3rd or not at all..
That said, I think the traditional subsistence farmersare capable of using the land effectivlety to feed themselves any surplus is traditionally bartered with neighbours. However there will be no commercial gain for the region from this. It has been proven in many countries that both are possible. Magabe's government knows this, the people know this, the only thing remaining is for him to be ousted from power, peacefully I hope. We pray for a stray bullet but wait invain.
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Post by BBCnews on Feb 25, 2003 16:38:46 GMT -5
Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has launched a scathing attack on the "born-again colonialists" of the United States and the United Kingdom.
The US should lead by example and dismantle its weapons of mass destruction, before demanding the same of Iraq, he said.
He also questioned the legitimacy of George Bush's 2000 election victory, saying Mr Bush was in no position to lecture Zimbabwe on democratic elections.
Mr Mugabe says that the West is waging a campaign to vilify him because of his policy of redistributing land from whites to blacks.
He sees this as putting right unfair land ownership patterns due to the colonial era.
The West has double standards when dealing with poor countries, Zimbabwe's leader said.
"Iraq might have developed or desired to develop arms of mass destruction. But the United States has massive arms of that magnitude.
"Why can't the United States demonstrate what Iraq should (do) by destroying their own massive heaps first?" he asked.
Iraq is a member of Nam and its Vice President, Taha Yassin Ramadan, was present during Mr Mugabe's speech.
"The United States, awakened to the implications of being the sole superpower, joined by Britain as a born-again colonialist, and other Western countries have turned themselves into fierce hunting bulldogs raring to go, as they sniff for more blood, Third World blood," Mr Mugabe said.
Since being ostracised by the West, Mr Mugabe has sought to cultivate allies in Asia, in particular Malaysia, Singapore and China.
The Zimbabwe leader said that the US courts which ruled that Mr Bush had won the closely fought 2000 election was "dominated by Republican judges."
"Is it not ironical that Mr Bush who was not really elected should deny my legitimacy, the legitimacy of President Mugabe, established by many observer groups from Africa and the Third World.
"Who, in these circumstances, should the world impose sanctions on? Robert Mugabe or George Bush?" he asked.
Pandora's box: open sesame !!!
BBCnews aka Srrh
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Post by raptor22 on Feb 26, 2003 8:25:34 GMT -5
Wow that was an excellent article! I've read something recently thatechoes thoe thoughts. I'll find it.
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Post by raptor22 on Feb 27, 2003 6:02:38 GMT -5
Nelson Mandela comments on US policy on Iraq
05-02-03 Excerpts from a speech the former South African President Nelson Mandela gave to the International Women's Forum in Sandton, South Africa, attacking US policy on Iraq.
It's a tragedy what is happening, what Bush is doing. All Bush wants is Iraqi oil. There is no doubt that the US is behaving badly. Why are they not seeking to confiscate weapons of mass destruction from their ally Israel? This is just an excuse to get Iraq oil. We have not had world wars in 57 years, and it is because of the United Nations. We should condemn both [British Prime Minister Tony] Blair and Bush and let them know in no uncertain terms that what they are doing is wrong. Other international countries like France and Russia must influence the UN to condemn what he [Bush] is doing. Bush is now undermining the UN. He is acting outside it, notwithstanding the fact that the UN was the idea of President Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. Both Bush, as well as Tony Blair, are undermining an idea which was sponsored by their predecessors. They do not care. Is it because the Secretary-General of the UN [Ghanaian Kofi Annan] is now a black man? They never did that when Secretary-Generals were white.
What is the lesson of them acting outside the UN? Are they saying any country which believes that they will not be able to get the support of the countries with a veto are entitled to go outside the UN and to ignore it? Or are they saying we, the United States, are the only superpower in the world now, we can act as we like? Are they saying this is a lesson we should follow or are they saying, "We are special. What we do should not be done by anybody [else]?" If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don't care for human beings. Fifty-seven years ago, when Japan was retreating on all fronts, they decided to drop the atom bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki; killed a lot of innocent people, who are still suffering the effects of those bombs. Those bombs were not aimed against the Japanese, they were aimed against the Soviet Union to say, "Look, this is the power that we have. If you dare oppose what we do, this is what is going to happen to you." Because they are so arrogant, they decided to kill innocent people in Japan, who are still suffering from that.
Who are they, now, to pretend that they are the policemen of the world? To want to decide for the people in Iraq what they should do with their Government and with their leadership? If this is done by the UN, if the UN says that Saddam Hussein is not carrying out the resolutions of the UN, therefore we the UN are going to take action, I will support that without reservation. What I am condemning is that one power, with a President who has no foresight, who cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust. I am happy that the people of the world -- especially those of the United States of America -- are standing up and opposing their own President. I hope that thatopposition will one day make him understand that he has made the greatest mistake of his life in trying to bring about carnage and to police the world, without any authority of the international body. It is something we have to condemn without reservation.
I only hope that the people of the United States will make Bush aware that he has made a big mistake to want to surpass the global body, the UN, whose ideals are to bring peace and eradicate wars. The people of the US should use their democracy to get rid of him. It is best for the US to use the ballot box and demonstrations to draw attention to the issue. And the women at this forum are there to look into these things, to be bold with their leadership and to condemn what is wrong. And finally, we have of course the question of globalisation in this country. As Cheryl Carolus [former South African High Commissioner to Britain and chief of South African Tourism] has said, somebody who is saying he or she is not going to accept globalisation is like saying, "I do not recognise winter, I am not going to put on clothing for winter!" She has put it very well, because what happens today in northern Europe has got an effect on our region the same day. Globalisation is already there, whether we like it or not. And of course globalisation at the present moment favours the rich and the mighty. We have to fight that. It must favour all human beings, whether in Europe or in Africa. And I'm sure this is the task of this forum to make sure that such irregularities are rectified.
Source: New Zealand Herald
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Post by RacerX on Mar 3, 2003 15:04:01 GMT -5
Something's not adding up...
As for this Mugabe guy, why wouldn't he continue to raise the most profitable crops available? If Tobacco sells for awhole lot more than rice, or whatever else he wants to grow, then he's an idiot. Simple economics, grow what's most profitable, and then BUY FOOD for his people!
Doesn't sound like the guy's too brilliant, or have I totally missed something?
Am I to understand that the whites stole their land, and they're taking it back? OK (two wrongs don't make a right, but let's just say in this case they do...), but to take it from profitable companies growing tabacco, and then give it to the "people" to grow staple crops to eat....that's straight up sensless, no?
Let the "people" grow the most profitable crop, and then they can buy what they need to eat, re-invest the left over money for more crops & continue to grow their business.
I must have mis-read the article, or something, because this whole thing sounds dumb.
Bottom line, screwing people is wrong, I don't care if they're black, white, brown, purple or green...OK, purple or green people might deserve to be screwed-they're probably aliens from another planet anyway, thus not people... (just a joke). There's definitely a rat in the mix somewhere, but to stop growing the more profitable crops, and grow food to eat...I'm lost at this way of thinking.
Needing clarification, RacerX
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